Black Superglue Patches (ring around the collar) – by Joyal Taylor aka holymolar


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This is the third article by Joyal (known online as holymolar). Again it is with pleasure that I put this on the blog. Joyal had emailed me that he was working on this piece for the blog. I was looking forward to reading his thoughts on this. Others have mentioned the problem to me when they used the black super glue. Joyal has done some good experimenting and I am pretty certain he has gotten to the root of the problem. Thanks Joyal for taking time to write-up your experience and tips on this patching process. This is a what rebornpipes is all about – taking ideas and experimenting and improving them. Without further introduction have a read on what Joyal has learned.

The first few times that I patched stem holes and deep tooth marks with black superglue, I ended up with white margins like these: (very evident when a flashlight is shined on the patch at an angle).
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At first, I thought that I must have contaminated it by sanding before the glue had totally set. But now, I’m convinced it was because I didn’t remove all of the oxidation beforehand. I’ve learned a few tricks with black superglue patching.

Here’s the before photos of a Dr Grabow stem that I recently patched. It’s not a high quality vulcanite but a relatively soft rubber.
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Tip #1 – Absolutely ALL oxidation and oils must be removed before patching. There are many ways to remove oxidation but, for this, I prefer the most aggressive method that I know – A bleach bath for an hour or more. Then a 1 hour alcohol bath to remove the bleach smell and taste. The bleach causes surface pitting but, in my mind, that means it has removed the deepest oxidation. (Sometimes I’ll follow with a Oxyclean bath as well). After the bleach and alcohol, lots and lots of sanding is necessary to smooth down the pitting. I use 220-800 grit with water.
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Tip #2 – Clean out the hole with a small round burr in a Dremel. Remove all oxidation and discolorations from inside the hole. “Feather” the edge which makes for better blending of the glue/stem junction and it also removes any microscopic particles of oxidation that may be hiding in the ragged edges.
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Tip #3 – Now use 1000 grit sandpaper on the edges to smooth it out some more. Remove any dust or oils with an alcohol wipe.
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I sand down the overfill (220-2500 grit) until it’s even with the surface. (If necessary, I’ll freshen up the bit with needle files). Then micro mesh (4000 -12000), carnauba, and buff.

Here’s the after photos on that Dr Grabow stem before final polishing/waxing – .so it can be seen better without the glare of the camera flash on fully polished stems. No more “ring around the collar”.
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Sometimes, on good quality vulcanite, I have difficulty seeing where the patches were.
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9 thoughts on “Black Superglue Patches (ring around the collar) – by Joyal Taylor aka holymolar

  1. Dave's avatarDave

    Thanks Joyal, for another great post. Your repairs are as near perfect as I think they can be. Your post gives me the details (and courage) to attempt much needed repairs on many of my estate pipes. Thanks Steve for giving the souce of the Super Glue ,and micro sanding pads, and sticks.

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  2. Greg's avatarGreg

    I, too, like the Dremel idea a lot and will be using it in the future. And am eagerly awaiting Mark’s article on the black Plastex powder!

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  3. Flatticus's avatarFlatticus

    This is a fantastic post. I’m literally using this info now, as I was just about to apply superglue to some divots and definitely hadn’t removed all the oxidation first. Thanks again, Joyal, this is a big help. And the post could not be more informative or easy to follow.

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    1. rebornpipes's avatarrebornpipes Post author

      I believe it is the black superglue that is available through Stewart MacDonald at http://www.stewmac.com It is a brand that is used by guitar makers and repair men. Stewmac is a supplier of this and of micromesh sanding pads and sticks. Great supplier. I believe that Joyal uses the same brand that I do. Here is the link for the various coloured superglues (white, amber and black)
      http://www.stewmac.com/Materials_and_Supplies/Glues_and_Adhesives/Glues/StewMac_Super_Glues/StewMac_Tinted_Super_Glue.html

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  4. Mark Domingues's avatarMark Domingues

    Awesome article! I’ve also had ring around the collar. I ordered the black plastic powder to mix with the superglue. Have you used it?

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    1. rebornpipes's avatarrebornpipes Post author

      Mark, I saw your post on PSU and I am looking forward to your experiment with the black plastic powder. The most I have done is vulcanite/lucite dust and mixing it with the glue. I look forward to reading about it.

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